I thought this would be a good opportunity to make money, but I only found out it was a scam after I was told by an ex "employee" after they hired me today and I have not bought the sample. Is it too late for me to back out?

I think I'll just not go to the training seminar.

It's not too late to back out now since you haven't bought the sample kit.

I was "hired by them back in the summer of 2002.

It looked like a good opportunity since they said they pay a base of 15.75 per appointment.

It's not neccessarily a scam, but it's close.

You have to spend your own money on gas to get you to your appointments. There will also be mandatory meetings that you will be required to attend. You will also have to set up your own appointments and generate your own leads.

There will be some paperwork that you'll have to work on after each day, and you will also have to do nightly checkins. The paperwork you won't be paid for and it's a lengthy part of the job.

If your appointments don't meet their qualifications, you won't be paid, and you have just worked for free.

They also hired everyone in my group that interviewed. I went into the office one time and the same girl who said I was hired, asked me if I was there for the interview. They didn't even have any idea that I was an employee.

The management also put a lot of pressure on you to sell, and that adds to the stress of the job.

That said, you can still possibly make money if you make huge sales on every appointment. So if you think you can, it may be a good job for you.

So they don't pay for gas expenses, you don't get paid hourly. What is this crap here: If your appointments don't meet their qualifications, you won't be paid, and you have just worked for free?? Bastards will find any God damn excuse not to pay! God what a load of crap! I wouldn't touch that job with a 10 foot pole. Screw Commission Jobs! I would say that's a HUGE SCAM!!

i worked for vector this summer. and i do agree that the managers do kind of trick you into working for vector but if you really think about what they said they are not really lying. the only straight out lie i heard from my manager was the fact that the steel in cutco knives were better than henckels. i researched that online and found that totally off. our knives are just more stain resistant. i was also pissed off that i had assumed our pay would be based on like the week like i sold a few thousand my first week and thought i'd be getting 20% on all of it. but instead i found out that it works like 0-1,000 10% 1000-3000 15% etc. so it doesn't matter how fast you do it. but if you look at their site it's on there in a pyramid like that. so i suppose it was just misleading words not really a straight out lie. another thing i was kinda mad about was that they made it sound like calls came into the office and they assign them just by their wordings. but you actually have to make the calls which they don't say until the 2nd day of training. however they never said exactly how it worked so i thought that was a bit misleading.

now some ppl are saying that their commissions weren't paid or were wrong. i actually keep up with my commissions in a running balance and i've found vector wrong 2wice. i called up the main office they fixed it within a week. also when i had questions like when my bonus was coming in (just started getting monthly bonus recently) b/c i thot they ripped me off they were really nice and told me they send it out about 2 weeks after the month ends.

last of all i want to say some good things about it. i've made a couple thousand this summer. worked for about 2 months. like many other ppl have said it's not for everyone. and your work experience really depends on your manager. it might've been b/c i sold well that my managers were very flexible, kinda whatever with me. after the first 1.5 months i stopped turning in qpr's and just turned in orders. surprisingly my avg order was about 200. but it might be b/c asian ppl like cleavers. i rarely sold sets but i sold alot of 4 pieces which i would recommend. buy 3 get 1 free. like i had small orders compared to an 800 set but i sold almost every appointment. also to people thinkign about working for them i gave alot away for free and i was #1 in one of the summer conferences. my avg free stuff was 3x more than the national/divisional avg. so just a tip there. you just have to be amicable with your customer and actually believe in some of your knives. like i never sold a bread slicer or forks because i just didn't think they were useful. your customers will really pick up on what you like. i personally liked the trimmer, paring, and the santoku which i sold almost every time. o yeah and cleavers but asians like i said like those.

as for unpaid training if they paid for it ppl would just go for training and then quit. that's what i would do i'd be like nearly free money yeah!!!! also its true the managers make more money off new recruits but that's b/c they have to train them, and also spend more time with them since newer ppl often have more questions and stuff. the higher a recruit achieves the lower the manager's pay becomes. (i learned this cuz i was in the skills for life thing) which i think is pretty fair. i called my managers alot when i first started. can i do this or how do i do that....

lastly my office was $15/hour and even though i often spent like 2 hours per appointment i never made base pay so it didn't affect me. but still $7 per hour (if you don't sell) is higher than min wage and actually i started an internship this month which was why i haven't been sellling as well but i found that i liked my flexible hours more. if i wanted to work i worked if i didn't i didn't. i think in the last 3-4 weeks i've done maybe 3 appointments and my bosses haven't said anything really. even when i was doing it full time sometimes i would only do 2 appointments a week (not during the push period) and they didn't have problems.

there isn't lengthy paperwork either in response to style. you fill out order forms and a qualified presentation sheet (the appointments you've done). that's about it. o yeah the qpr all you put is customer name, single/not, apt/house, what they bought/not buy, and how many recs and permissions you got. it's not lengthy. the only lengthy thing is the appointment itself and sometimes phone time. btw i had really **** permissions and recs got like none. so if you don't think you're good at asking for them then just work until you exhaust your parents friends and quit. your managers aren't going to say you can't quit. then you can also turn in your knives since so many ppl ***** about the 150. i think the knives are pretty good especially the warranty. and i'm keeping mine since i got it for like 70% off anyways. or you can sell your kit for like 300 used. and still make like $150.

so yeah that's my bit on cutco/vector. some parts i hated some parts i liked (just the flexible hours) but either way i made good money. like i reached 45% a few days ago so somewhere around 8000 or so.